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R2RB Podcast - Women Entrepreneurs and Indie Artists Series
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R2RB Podcast - Women Entrepreneurs and Indie Artists Series
Charles aka Histheory
We travel to France through the magic of Zoom to speak with Charles, aka Histheory. His music will take you on a journey like none you have experienced. It's a journey you don't want to miss.
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Hi and welcome to the R2RB Indie Artist Podcast, and today I have with me Charles, also known as History. Charles, how are you?
Speaker 2:I'm good, very good. Thank you for having me here. Very glad, and you, how are you?
Speaker 1:I am very well, thank you. So I'd like to ask two questions to get us warmed up. What is your favorite app on your phone and why?
Speaker 2:It's a tough question because, well, favorites for me it's complicated with everything because I like everything almost, but of course, well, it's not going to come as a surprise. Music apps are my favorite to listen to music, but also Google Chrome because, well, I check everything there. And IMDB because I'm a big movie lover, so every day I'm there maybe 20, 30 minutes per day to check all the new movies, what's coming, and so on.
Speaker 1:Oh, wow, oh my God, loving it. Nice, I like those. If you could have a conversation with anyone in history, who would it be?
Speaker 2:It would be George Melies, because he's one of the first, basically, who made movies, maybe even the first one, and he had like an unlimited imagination.
Speaker 2:So it would be just amazing knowing how he made movies back then when he didn't have anybody basically to tell him how it works, because there was nothing and just the setups that he was doing and so on to just trigger imagination to people, but with very little quality Black and white cameras that were not that great. So, yeah, it would have been amazing to see his vision basically before everything Hollywood and so on.
Speaker 1:Right. Can you imagine him seeing what you're doing today, what we're doing today?
Speaker 2:Wow, I think he would be amazed. Below his mind.
Speaker 1:Yeah, definitely Can you imagine him seeing what you're doing today what we're doing today.
Speaker 2:Wow, I think he would be amazed, blow his mind.
Speaker 1:Yeah, definitely. I like that. I like that answer because I hadn't thought of that before and just to bring somebody from the past history forward, just to see the reaction.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it would be nice yeah.
Speaker 2:Crazy. It's like Doctor who that did some episodes like that. Yeah, it was pretty interesting as well.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly, oh my gosh, you are a composer indie artist and a movie and video game lover. So let's start with who you are. Before the composer indie artist emerged.
Speaker 2:I'm a big dreamer, basically Been from the start, even before music was in my life. So it's just trying to do everything that triggers my mind that I can travel to, because travel can be expensive and so on. It can be not possible because we have work and so on. So even when I was a child, I liked to imagine everything and play video games with books and so on. So even when I was a child, I I like to, to imagine everything to and play video, video games with books and so on, so anything, basically to bring my mind out there and not in the physical world wow, have you done some traveling, though, outside of the physical?
Speaker 1:yeah, that's good. What's your favorite place that you've been to?
Speaker 2:Ireland. It was amazing. I went to an island called Inishboffin, oh, okay. And it's a small island west of Ireland, okay, and there's not a lot of people there, but I'd never seen that for the first time in my life, there was people driving cars slowing down when they were seeing me walking and putting their windows down just to say hello.
Speaker 1:Wow, wow. I couldn't see that happening here in the States.
Speaker 2:No, in France as well, even people in the street walking, they're not going to say hello, so obviously the ones in their car.
Speaker 1:Wow, wow. Actually, ireland's on my bucket list. I've been to France, but I haven't been to Ireland.
Speaker 2:You should, you, wow, actually, ireland's on my bucket list. I've been to France, but I haven't been to Ireland. You should, you should, but maybe not too long if you like food as well, because well, for France, we have a lot of different foods and so on. So for me, I went there for a week and after a week I was fed up a bit with the food it was always the same one.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's a lot of meat and potatoes. My grandmother was from Ireland and she loved to make her meat and potatoes and the lamb and everything. Oh, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2:It's delicious, their meat wow, it's incredible. But yeah, after having that seven times in the week, yeah, Then you've had enough, yeah, oh my gosh, give me a burger, I'll be happy.
Speaker 1:Exactly when did you realize that you wanted to compose music?
Speaker 2:It was in 2004,. Because at that time I had touched my first guitar, which was my cousin's guitar, and I fell in love with it. I decided I wanted to play a guitar as well. So I asked my mom to buy me a guitar, and she did, and that's how it all started I just fell in love.
Speaker 1:And who's your biggest supporter?
Speaker 2:My biggest supporter is my wife and my in-laws as well. They are all together. My family for starters was not a big supporter, so kind of gave up, but with my wife it changed entirely. She's helping me a lot actually with the music as well, giving me advices and so on. She listens really really fully. Is she also in?
Speaker 1:music. She's not.
Speaker 2:That's why it's interesting, because she has a different set of mind than me and, on top, usually if I spend maybe 20 hours, 30 hours on the music, I get lost. But then she listens for the first time. It's like what, what are you doing?
Speaker 1:Yeah, but that's nice. That's nice that you have that balance, that somebody that's not you know, fully immersed into the uh, into the music scene, to to have that air for it yeah, no, no, that's priceless really nice and sometimes could be just a little detail, like finishing a song, for instance.
Speaker 2:It can just be a note, but you know, the finishing part of a song, for instance, it can just be a note, but the finishing part of a song can be really important as well. And she did help me with at least two songs on how to end them better and it really changed it entirely. So that's really good.
Speaker 1:Wow, does your music fall into a genre?
Speaker 2:Well, instrumental usually I put because I do only instrumentals except with collabs Then also epic. I'm not only doing epic as well, and on top with my last album I'm doing in space. It's also a blend of electro. So for me it's more instrumental. Basically, and I don't like to stay close in only one, absolutely.
Speaker 1:So when you're composing, is it always running through your mind, in your head? Is the music, the composing, your next project? Oh, I have to sit down and I have to start writing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it can be a mess, unfortunately, Because sometimes it's just an idea pops. I think every artist got that moment where they're in bed and then sort of be oh there's a melody.
Speaker 2:So yeah, at that moment usually I grab my phone and I record it like, and so I can then maybe reproduce it later. But the worst is, while doing a music it can happen that I have another music coming in mind as well, another melody, and that will not fit at all in the same song. So then I have to change project and put it down so I don't forget it, and then go back to the original song. Oh my God, yeah, but it's interesting.
Speaker 1:Go back to the original song, oh, my God yeah, but it's interesting yeah it is interesting and I know some of the others that I've interviewed have said the same In the middle of the night you'll wake up and they jump up and grab their phone or paper and pen, whatever. They've got close to them or they've got to pull over to the side of the road while they're driving. It's like my god, yeah, that's crazy the song is crazy. So what was your first? Um piece that you composed?
Speaker 2:oh, it was a horrible one. Um, no, not that horrible, but only a few notes, and actually I'm gonna um try to finish it one day. But it was an Arabic one with only a few notes. So no title, no, nothing at all, but it was just a few notes doing some Oriental stuff. And yeah, I do want to do it again to finish it, because those few notes are still staying in my mind. But yeah, it was horrible Wow.
Speaker 1:And that kind of reminds me of your release one.
Speaker 2:Yeah, one note you don't need more. It was a stupid challenge, but in the end I'm okay. Yeah, but in the end, right, that's amazing, I could have done it so many different ways.
Speaker 1:That in the end, yeah, but in the end Right.
Speaker 2:That's amazing. Exactly, I could have done it so many different ways that in the end I released it and I was not even sure about it, Because there were so many ways I wanted to do it that maybe I could do a one-two a one-three or something, because in the end there's so many opportunities as well with this. So I'm really happy that I did it, and maybe I'm gonna do a one, two yeah, right, I I like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, when I first I when I first saw you releasing that and reading about it, I I was like, hmm, okay, let's give that a try. And then it was like, oh wow, yeah, I liked it yeah and I think I first started following you. I don't know why it came up, but a business trip came up on my feed one day and that's, I think, besides Centel, how I ended up following you.
Speaker 2:Indeed, yeah With a business trip.
Speaker 1:It must have been resonating with myself at that time because you know most of us. With you, you as well.
Speaker 2:We all have that full-time job yeah, of course it's not easy, right, I know?
Speaker 1:I'm trying, still trying to figure out that other. Do you want to make your music full-time?
Speaker 2:yeah, yep, I do. Um, it's not the case, uh, but yeah I do. I want to do music for video games, for for movies, for tv shows, for anything with a screen.
Speaker 1:Yeah yeah, so talk more about that, because that's what you really are composing your music for.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly so for me, because I need to drive my music, so I'm writing the stories well, not physically writing, so I have the idea basically of the story and then I create the songs related to that story, but then my main drive would be to then becoming a composer. So, yeah, for movies and so on. So having an idea in mind that producer, whatever would provide so then I could create, create the soundtrack to it. And my idea is to basically changed a little bit how we're doing soundtracks nowadays, because there are a few that are doing it really really, really great, but most of the soundtracks now they're pretty generic and we don't remember them. Every time we think of a movie soundtrack, we're like Indiana Jones, jurassic Park and Star Wars all movies that were released before the 2000s.
Speaker 1:Right, right, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2:And now we don't really remember them, except a few examples. There are some that are really really great, but usually it's from Hans Zimmer, for instance who knows his? Stuff, but plenty. I'm listening actively because that's my drive, so I'm listening actively to the music. When I watch something and I'm like, yeah, it's just pretty random, pretty generic, and I already heard that a million times. So I'm going to change that.
Speaker 1:Well you are, you have already started that. You have started that with history, History yeah, and the rest is history. Yeah, the rest is history. But tell us how that started. How did you come up with that?
Speaker 2:I have the name. So it started in 2006, I think, because I made a band called Heart History, because at that time it was, well, the heart of history and theory. So the band didn't work, obviously, and so I just gave up entirely. And after that, so in 2012, I just started to do music, so under the name Ravgator, and I decided only last year to get back to music entirely, to take some more stuff I did only last year. To get back to music entirely, to take some old stuff I did back then and to pick up the name E-Serie that I really like. So not the heart anymore, because it was not that great, but just E-Serie, e-serie, yeah, and that's it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and so tied into your website though.
Speaker 2:So then, on your website you have have um, you know it's an adventure and you invite people to join that adventure yeah, indeed, because, well, for now there's only one uh, thank you again for him doing it and it's basically because there's no picture. No, no, no, whatever with the songs for now. Uh was basically to make, um, people do the, the, the movie, the, the, the animation, or whatever they want to do. Uh, with the, the soundtrack, um, so, of the, the, well, the music, and I did it for now with business trip, where there's a saxophone drive in the entire music, except for the intro where basically people are are just pretending to play a sax, of course, not on a saxophone. This is what's funny about it.
Speaker 2:And, yeah, just having fun basically, and I think that since COVID, people started to be a bit less friendly, a bit more watching Netflix at home and not caring about humanity anymore, and especially online, unfortunately. Yes, and I wanted to have a little drive, basically, where people could have fun and then join in the fun and also be nice with people that are having fun as well, because I think that, anyway, if we see someone goofing around, well, there's maybe less people that would be pissed off or whatever at it because they're just having fun, exactly.
Speaker 1:And there is a TikTok I think it's TikTok where you are in the shower playing.
Speaker 2:Exactly, Do it in the shower. Well, do it wherever you want on the toilet if you want. Don't be naked.
Speaker 1:Yes, please no, don't be naked. Yeah, yes, please no. But it's something that everybody needs in their life is a little fun and a little adventure, absolutely. And you have rules, right, you have rules. Be kind, have fun, don't make fun of listen, discover, learn, love and and be human yeah, yeah, be human, because for me, that's the thing we don't have anymore.
Speaker 2:What is humankind, basically Humanity? Is it because we're human beings, or is it because we have a heart, we have a brain, we have a self-control, self-consciousness, and so on? So yeah, I think it's not because we're just human, no, no, we need to work that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think, like you had just said about COVID, we shut ourselves off because of COVID. You know we didn't have that interaction for all that time, and so to go to your website and have a little adventure is a great place to be.
Speaker 2:Thank you very much. I hope it will be for a lot of people.
Speaker 1:Who does your artwork?
Speaker 2:For the Untold Journey. It was made by Pixelboy back in 2012 or 13. And he made the entire artwork with Back at Work, Insight and CD1, because I want to do a printed version one day, so I wanted him to do it fully, but then for the other artworks they are made with AI. Oh, cool. It costs a lot of money, so for now, so you do it.
Speaker 1:You do it in AI.
Speaker 2:Exactly.
Speaker 1:One of the questions that I do sometimes ask is do you work with AI or how do you feel about AI, Because there's always good sides of everything.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly. Well, sorry, I do use AI for the covers, but for me, well, there's a lot of talks and so on and I understand people are a bit hectic around it. For me, if the product itself, if this is not the core of the product to have it with AI, I'm okay with it. If it's a tool like many with AI, I'm okay with it. If it's a tool like many other tools, I'm okay with it. It's like we're using tools every day, all the time.
Speaker 2:So for me, the covers. So they are here to appeal your eyes, of course. So that may be interesting, but the core of what I'm doing is the music behind.
Speaker 1:So if I would use AI for the music then, yeah, I wouldn't like it, and I think when AI first came out, we were all going oh my God, it's going to take over everything. As it has evolved, everybody has learned to use it, like you just said, as a tool, just not to do everything.
Speaker 2:Exactly. Yeah, we'll see how it goes, because we're still at the beginning. We don't know how life will change.
Speaker 1:It will, it will continue to change Absolutely. You're very passionate about life.
Speaker 2:What are some of your passions. My passions, well again, video games, movies and so on, of course, and on top of all the media stuff, where I like to travel, so in my mind, would be also actually traveling, because discovering cultures is truly amazing. As I said before, Ireland, for instance, but I also went to Morocco and I felt it absolutely amazing. There was a night guard that was there and he spent the time to show us really how to make the proper mint tea that they are doing there, with approximately one kilo of sugar inside. That's a lot. That's why it's so great. That's a lot. There's more sugar than water in there.
Speaker 1:That's a lot.
Speaker 2:There's more sugar than water in there. But it was really great because he explained that the recipe was made by his dad and then he taught us the recipe as well and I felt that it was amazing that someone that had a family recipe would take two strangers and just show how his dad was making the tea. And, yeah, I really felt like it was really deep for him to explain and that was one of my most amazing experiences and it was just making tea, so it would look maybe a bit silly to anyone, but yeah, for me that was the highlight.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, that's amazing, and you're right for somebody to, for the two of you to have somebody like him show you and have you taste his wonderful tea oh my gosh. And sugar definitely makes it better. Wow, wow. Let's see, is the process of being a composer different than, say, a songwriter?
Speaker 2:composer different than uh, say, a songwriter. Well, I would say these in the fact that there's no training basically. Well, there's less training uh with, uh, with composing, because for me, I make the song I forget the song I would not be able to do it.
Speaker 2:I have a high respect, uh, for everybody that is well doing lives and learning how to sing and then really being perfectly pitched and so on, because I would not be able to do that, thank you, and I like perfection too much. I'm not achieving it never, but I like to be as close as I can be to it. So I know that by repeating and repeating, I know one day I would make a mistake or whatever.
Speaker 1:So, um, yeah, I think that's the biggest difference, uh, is that wow, okay, um, yeah, because I don't know that everybody realizes that you know there are composers and they're singer, songwriters, and, and to make that distinction between the two, what's been one of the highlights of your career so far?
Speaker 2:This interview. Truly, it's not even a joke, because I did music before my band failed and so on and so on, and I restarted fully only in August last year. In August and September I had five listeners my sister that listened 98% of the entire streams, and it's only in October that it really started to grow and so on. And I didn't expect to be interviewed at all, maybe one day if I would become famous or whatever, but not right now.
Speaker 1:So yeah, Good, I'm glad I could be part of your journey. So what are you working on presently?
Speaker 2:My space album. I started it Well, this is exactly like the question before you know the song making I made Lost Orbit right in the middle of Untold Journey. It arrived like that. I started the melody and I stopped entirely the Anthol Journey, the song I was working on, and I worked only on Lost Orbit. I did it in four days. I was like in a frenzy, and so I finished it. It was wrapped up already in October, so I only released it in March because I cannot mix everything. And then I had already a few files on the site about some ideas and so on and I decided because well, with Lost Orbit was a space trip, of course, so to make an entire space album, because I love space again, and I decided to do that one. It's going to be 11 songs and seven for now.
Speaker 2:finished, absolutely finished. So it's going to be 11 songs and 7 for now finished, absolutely finished, so it's good.
Speaker 1:And for remaining, then, if I do the math correctly, Do you give yourself a timeline when things will be released or you just let it progress naturally?
Speaker 2:I do a little bit, but it's more like a little drive, because originally I expected to finish it maybe by May, but then I changed because, well, it would have been too short and, on top, maybe too close to enter Journey. So I'm going to do it for this summer, but you know, july, august, maybe September, I don't know. Yeah, putting, we don't have a boss, as you said, we have jobs already. So yeah, doing it again for passion. No, no, putting, we don't have a boss, as you said, we have jobs already. Right, so yeah, doing it again for passion no, no no, no, no.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm sorry. Yeah, I got to ask it. The question is like is space travel in your bucket list at all?
Speaker 2:It would be amazing. Just going on orbit, for instance, or to the moon, would be incredible, but yeah, it would be a an incredible thing. But just the there's a flight, uh well, a plane that is doing the zero gravity thing, and so it's much less expensive than going to space, but still, I think it's like 200 000 or something like that. So yeah, I don't know, maybe, maybe maybe maybe. But yeah, basically they're going up and up and then they're doing like a flip or something on the plane.
Speaker 2:And then it's like you have no gravity at all, so you're floating.
Speaker 1:Wow, that would be amazing. That would be something very different. I almost forgot to ask this question. You collaborated with Drunk and Lonely on Heartstrings. Oh my gosh, what an amazing song. And well, first, when I saw that you had collaborated with them because I follow Drunk and Lonely and like their music and when I listened to Heartstrings for the first time, man, that first note, I knew it was you, just one note apparently. Yeah, just one note. It was the one note, it was the one note song. How did that come about?
Speaker 2:And.
Speaker 2:I have no idea, to be honest, because when I started the guitar after like two months of trying to do covers, I was like I don't like covers, I don't want to do that, forget it, I'm never going to do covers. I don't know, with the heart strings, I know Andrew a lot because we talk almost every day and when he released the heartstrings we were already talking a lot and I don't know, I just fell in love with the song. It just clicked with me and suddenly I found myself just asking him do you mind if I do a cover, a remake of the song? He's like yeah, yeah, no worries, do it. And he sent me the files because it's still singing and so on. I didn't want to sing myself or everybody would kill themselves.
Speaker 2:And he sent me the files and I started the project and suddenly I regretted it. For the first like 30 minutes I was like how am I going to do that? No idea what I just started. And so I just opened my dough and I just started on the keyboard and just did it random. I have no idea what I was doing. And the first note just arrived and in the end it was so easy, it just came in.
Speaker 1:It just flowed. That's amazing. Yeah, it's a great song, absolutely, and the two of you all of you collaborating on that was cool, very cool. Would you like to collaborate with somebody else in the future?
Speaker 2:Yeah, a lot. Yeah, unfortunately, I have two secret collabs. One that's going to be pretty soon. So, depending on when this is going to be live, maybe it will be already released. But for now I'm not going to say anything. Everybody will know.
Speaker 1:Exactly.
Speaker 2:Another one will be later for the summer probably. So again, I'm not going to release that one. But then there's a lot. There's collabs I want to do with across the frost lands. Oh, yeah, oh wow that would be nice, she has a beautiful voice yes um, with ghost of rocker um, and he's doing some chill vibes. I love it. Uh jobu, I know from rain of fire and because he has an incredible voice so that would be great.
Speaker 2:Uh, planes, desperate symphony as well. Who has a very um well, he likes a bit of horror as well, with philip k dick and so on. Then this is a site that I don't have, so I think we could do something great oh, wow um vox and sticks would be nice as well beautiful voice. Yeah, just nick lang as as well, because he has a blend of rap, hip-hop and also metal. That would work. A lot of others Sintar as well.
Speaker 1:I'd love it.
Speaker 2:Right Yep.
Speaker 1:I could see that, I could see all the collaborations. I can hear all the collaborations. Oh my gosh. Yeah, you have lots of work to do. Yeah, I am.
Speaker 2:So much work, so little time.
Speaker 1:Do you sleep? Because I know you work, and then you get up and change computers and go back to work on music.
Speaker 2:I do, but I'm lucky I can sleep maybe five hours, six hours per day and you're good and I'm good, so it's okay. From time to time I need eight or nine hours because I'm grumpy and I'm not doing anything.
Speaker 1:Once a week? What do you do to relax? What do you do when you need to take a few hours off?
Speaker 2:Yeah, watch movies, drinking beer. Unfortunately, I'm drunk and lonely sometimes.
Speaker 2:It's mainly movies and so on and video games and everything, or going out Just having a walk. We live in the city but we have some good places where we have some parks and so on that are pretty big, a couple that are completely natural as well. They live it natural because made of parks it's, it's nice, but it's made of by human beings, while all nature, like with grass going all over the place and so on, it's pretty nice. So, yeah, going out and just smelling, smelling the air right, we all need to do.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we all need to do that because so many of you all are in the studio in the evenings for so long, so definitely have to get out there and enjoy nature, right? Yeah, let let everybody know where they can find your music to stream and to purchase and where they can find you to follow you, like you and comment yeah, well, there's, um well, my website.
Speaker 2:So historymusiccom, um, no, no, dash, no, no, dot, no, nothing. So it's your music. Uh, there's band camp where everyone can buy. Um, everything except lost orbit. Um, because it's gonna be an album for now I didn't put it there, so sorry, you cannot buy it yet and then you know, everything with distributors. They make it so easy, so so, spotify, apple, youtube, tidal, amazon, deezer, everything, everything.
Speaker 1:There you go, You're all over. What advice would you give another person getting into the music industry composing or singer-songwriter?
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, not giving up. I think this is the part where we lose. This is the part where I lost as well. So not giving up is the main one, because it's tough getting out there. There's a lot of indifference, even from friends, and so on. We don't have a lot of reach when we start, so getting ears on what we do is not easy, but it does not mean we're not good at it.
Speaker 2:It just means we need some luck and yeah, to have it. It's what I've been doing now and what I really love doing. It's supporting other people. Show that we care, make connections with people so that we have fun as well. Yeah, if we show support to people, basically some will maybe don't care, but some maybe will realize like, oh yeah, that's's really nice, I feel good receiving it. Well, maybe, if I do it, people will also feel good.
Speaker 2:Absolutely, yeah, this is what's the best for me and, on top, just knowing that we put a smile on someone uh, this is priceless it's like I don't care if then they listen to my music or whatever it's. I know if someone was happy because I said something nice.
Speaker 1:It goes a long way, absolutely.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I like that, I like that very much.
Speaker 1:Is there anything that I haven't touched on that you would like to share?
Speaker 2:Well, I wanted to know because you were, or you are still, a wedding officiant.
Speaker 1:Yes, I am.
Speaker 2:And I was wondering if, because we all have a lot of jobs that we don't like and so on and so on. But I think you do like it.
Speaker 1:I do. So I've been a wedding officiant for over 15 years. When I originally started out, I had a mentor, and before she became my mentor, she had said to me oh, I think you would be a great wedding officiant. And I said, no, thank you. I don't like talking in front of people. So I do, I enjoy it, and from that that's how I ended up doing the podcasting. So from.
Speaker 1:Wedding Efficient still doing that. I then started doing podcasting with women entrepreneurs basically in the wedding industry, which then led into my shows on on air online and then from that I picked up and started doing the indie artist because I started with my business partner, uh, the r2rbcom, and thank you so much for asking.
Speaker 2:I know that was a long-winded answer that's really really good and and sometimes, well, you must have also some good stories or things like that. Is it a set of like stress as well, because maybe, well, there's timeline and so on, or more joy, like you love it, or it's really stressful as well. Well, do do, do it right and do it on time.
Speaker 1:There's a little bit of it all there, especially in the beginning. I was always nervous in the beginning. I'm a little nervous still now and then having to create a ceremony. You know I specialize and customize each ceremony that I do, so there's always that moment when I let the couples read it like are they going to like it or not? So so far it's been good.
Speaker 2:But you still have the little bit of tension.
Speaker 1:It's like, yeah, just you know, I think with everybody, if you don't have a little bit of tension or a little bit of stress, then, um, sometimes you're too confident and then it doesn't work yeah right, no, no, that's true that's true and, uh, do you have any plan for the future on this?
Speaker 1:maybe, like I don't know indie music at weddings, for instance, like yeah, I, I'm, I'm, so I work my full-time job, I'm in the school system, so we're off on spring break this week and this, one of my goals for this week is to really just to sit down and think about, um, bringing everything together, because I have the wedding and business, I have the r2rb business, I have the podcasting, and so I'm overextended. So that's when I'm trying to bring it all together so I can streamline it all, because I love doing it all but it's a lot. So eventually, that's the goal. That's. My future plan is to figure out what I want to really do with it all.
Speaker 2:Wow, Well, that's amazing. You talked earlier about the fact that you had a lot of collabs and so on.
Speaker 1:a lot of work.
Speaker 2:You do have a lot of work. Yeah, you need more time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I like this part. I do like the podcasting and I love sharing the indie artists on the R2RB platform and speaking to women entrepreneurs. Those are really my two passions. The wedding business is still going, but those I didn't. If you had asked me that a few years ago, I would have told you you were crazy. I wouldn't be happy doing this, but I am.
Speaker 2:But we change.
Speaker 1:Well, let me tell you I have changed. I have recreated myself so many times through life and that's my message. It's like never give up, never think you're too old to do anything, never think that you can't accomplish something at an older age, because I'm here to tell you, unless you have that mindset of you can't do it, then you won't do it. But if you have a mindset of I'm going to try and see if I can do it, it will work for you, absolutely have a mindset of I'm going to try and see.
Speaker 2:If I can do it, it will work for you. Absolutely exactly reminds me of a line I heard in a movie um, someone saying, uh well, I don't know what I'm gonna do, and so on, I'm getting older, and so on and so on. And the woman speaking to him was saying some people are simply late bloomers that's it. I like it because, yeah, that's true, yeah, we're like plants we just keep blooming, that's right, we keep're like plants, we just keep blooming, that's right, we keep regenerating, absolutely.
Speaker 1:And I always said and my kids know that too, because they'll say mom, are you recreating yourself again? I was like, maybe, maybe you never, know, Anything can happen.
Speaker 2:That's right. Right, that's it Right, that's right. I like that Well, thank you, thank you, and you do, and you did this really really well. By the way, it's easy because, well, for me, it's the second interview I'm doing. First one, I was a bit not that great, honestly. I didn't feel it enough. I spoke maybe a bit too much going around and around, but, yeah, you have a natural thing going on and it's really nice.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was quite nervous in the beginning and it took me a minute to finally. You know, because I provide questions for every interview and I personalize the questions for every interview. So it's never a standard questionnaire that I send out and I take my time to do a little research to find out who you are. I go searching, you know it's like let me see if I can find a tidbit here or there on anybody that I interview. So yeah, I like that part.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's what's really nice as well. I like that you get really focused and you know the subject as well. So, it's really great. I love it.
Speaker 1:Well, thank you, thank you, and you're doing really well at also interviewing, so we'll have to talk afterwards. I might have to get you to do some of these for me.
Speaker 2:Another collab.
Speaker 1:We'll get another collab. I'm going to get music for my podcast.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:Oh, Charles, thank you so much. You have made this an enjoyable interview All my interviews are enjoyable, but I've enjoyed this one. It was nice to speak to you in France. I have fond memories of visiting. I was quite young when I was there, but we did have a nice time while I was over in Europe. So I'm glad you mentioned Ireland, because it's still in my bucket list.
Speaker 2:Do it, do it, do it and let me know when you go there.
Speaker 1:Absolutely, absolutely, and check out the Nisboffin You'll love it. Yep, it's crazy, oh my gosh. All right, charles, thank you so much. You enjoy your evening, because it's almost evening time there, right?
Speaker 2:Indeed, it's going to be 4 pm soon, so we'll have a bit of afternoon there you go Good, all right.
Speaker 1:Well, you go, enjoy the rest of your day and I will be in touch.
Speaker 2:Thank you very much. I will be in touch as well and enjoy the rest of your day. Your day, my day.
Speaker 1:All right, charles, thank you.
Speaker 2:Thank.
