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Halfway Through the Week with Ash Fault Jungle, Kristina Isaac, The Word66, and Freaky Things

Deb LaMotta

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Turning 65 has never sounded so good, especially when spent with the talented C Stevens from Ash Fault Jungle, whose latest track is storming through Spotify and YouTube like a reveler on a dance floor. But as I blow out the candles, today's celebration isn't just about my milestone; it's about the resounding beats and stories of musicians like Steve from Word 66, Joe Spiller from Freaky Things and Kristina Isaac, whose tales of creation and resilience are the true gifts unwrapped in this episode. Every chord struck and lyric penned reveals the vibrant fabric of the indie scene, from the heartfelt to the revolutionary, including 'NeuroDivergent' by Histheory and Jay El Dee—an anthem embracing the beauty of neurodiversity.


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Speaker 1:

When can we get Boss Lady out of the attic? It's usually halfway through the week. So here she is, your host, your host of halfway through the week, deb LaMotta. Okay, you can applaud now.

Speaker 2:

That's okay. Not only can you applaud, but you can say happy birthday to me, that's right. And with me tonight is C Stevens of Ashfall Jungle. And thank you so much, c Stevens, for joining me tonight. I guess we both needed a good laugh.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I think the wheels already came off.

Speaker 2:

And we are halfway through the week. It is April 10th, that's right. It's 801 in here in Delaware it is 67 degrees C, stevens. What is it like in Chicago? Is it snowing still?

Speaker 3:

no, no, thank god it's been. Uh, it was 70 the other day.

Speaker 2:

It's been in the 60s ever since I was crazy with you having that snow the other day, like okay yeah keep it there.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yep, all right. Well, let's see. Tonight's show is brought to you by r2rb podcast Series. What's happening in the Delaware music scene, who's coming up next in the R2RB studio and more. And make sure you have your headphones on. A drink of choice, god, do I need a drink tonight? Because we will be right back. So don't go anywhere. And again, it is my birthday. I keep telling everybody it's my birthday today. Yes, I am 65 and I am proud of it, and that's what I have said all day. All right, see, stevens, we will be back.

Speaker 5:

So don't go anywhere. I got the man who's as sweet as can be, who knows all my flaws and all my setbacks. What I failed to see, hard to believe, it was orchestrated Early in our years. It's never too late. It's never too late for love. It's never too late. It's never too late for love. It's never too late for love. It's never too late. It's never too late for love. He's been my best friend for 25 years. I've made my mistakes in love, but he was right there. God opened my eyes For what was meant to be the love of my life Was right in front of me. He's my blessing. He's my heart and love. He's my blessing. He is my guest. He is my blessing. He is my guest.

Speaker 6:

He is my partner. It's never too late. It's never, never. No, it's never too late. No, no, it's never.

Speaker 5:

It's never too late. It's never too late. No, no, it's never too late. Never too late. It's never too late for love.

Speaker 2:

All right and we are back. I'm Deb LaMotta and this is Halfway Through the Week. It is April 10th. Did I mention it was my birthday? C Stevens.

Speaker 3:

Yes, you did.

Speaker 2:

Just wanted to make sure, and my co-host tonight is C Stevens Ashfall Jungle, and thank you so much for being here with me tonight. What's going on in your world out in Chicagoland?

Speaker 3:

Oh, not much. You know America is doing very well. You were at the forefront of that. All the other you know radio personalities that have played it. I am just totally tickled at the response to it. It is morphed, that's all I can say. It is morphed morphed, that's all I can say. It is morphed. It's doing very well on Spotify. We're coming up on the fourth week of the release. Youtube, for some reason, it saw a big surge this weekend and in that aspect, I saw a surge on my website of people downloading it.

Speaker 3:

Oh cool yeah so there's been a big Thank you, thank you, it's been great. I mean, all these other platforms like yours have picked it up and they're pushing it and pushing it, and pushing it, and it's doing extremely well, better than I ever thought it could do.

Speaker 2:

That is so great, yeah, and from the get-go I love that song. And then when the video together with it is just it, just, you know, takes it to another level, absolutely. So you know, his three, his three I still have a problem pronouncing that and JLD, right. So these two, their new release, that's coming out on April 19th, so it's NeuroDivergent, and they had sent it to me. I did ask if I could play it early. They said yes, which I. So I have played it. Oh my God, what a song.

Speaker 2:

But I wanted to know more about it. I wanted, you know. I'm the one who wants to know what's behind the story. How did they come about? How did the collaboration come? So I had them both email me back and it's this collaboration for neurodivergent between HIST3 and JLD and it started back in November of 23. And it wasn't supposed to happen as quickly as it did. Jld and Reeve were working on other projects, but once Reeve got hold of the idea neurodivergent, he dove right in and a week, a week, a week later, he would send Jay a hold of the idea NeuroDivergent. He dove right in and a week later he would send Jay a draft of the track. I'm like, oh, my God. So if you know me, you're going to know that I always pronounce names and things the wrong way, so I'm always apologizing, but they all seem to say okay, no problem. So Reeve wasn wasn't expecting Jay to jump right up back on the project, but Jay said as soon as she heard the track that was all she needed to start listening to the track every moment she had and the writing process began.

Speaker 2:

And now neurodivergent, if you don't know, refers to people with variations of their mental functions, including ADHD, asd, which is autism syndrome disorder, and other neurological and developmental conditions, and that's just the medical definition. And ADHD and ASD has, excuse me, has touched so many lives, and my son is one of them with the ADHD, and he's 33. So 33 years ago we didn't have all this information, no Right. So Reeve also took into consideration how neurodivergence is tough on kids and his intro is more reminiscent of kids playing. And then he's moving into this upbeat tempo and this is the first collaboration between the two of them and, my God, what an amazing collaboration it is.

Speaker 2:

And then on the other side, with JLD, the neurodivergent hits home with her herself, her husband and children. All are neurodivergent and Jay's ADHD wasn't diagnosed until adulthood. And it's not easy being different growing up, as we all know, because we all are different and we all know how kids are right. And Jay said that she didn't fit in the typical box and no matter how hard she tried, but that once she was diagnosed with ADHD she found herself giving herself grace and turned to self-love, and that self-love is as she says. She is modeling that self-love for her children. And in Jay's email to me, she hopes that this song helps her neurodivergent community feel seen, understood, and hopes it creates neurotypical allies in those who just didn't understand before, which is so important, and that's just one of the biggest messages from this song. So I want to thank them both and what they've done with this song to bring this message to the forefront and without further ado, we're going to listen to the song, so don't go anywhere.

Speaker 9:

I am not what you imagined. Through all of your dreaming and all of your planning. I'm trying as hard as I can To live up to your standards, trying to set in A box I can't fit in. Trying to live within your city limits. I'm neurodivergent. Neurodivergent Don't sound like a word. Cause your books are not current. My symptoms emerging Neurodivergent. Neurodivergent Don't sound like a word. Cause your books are not current. My symptoms emergent Neurodivergent, seems we are different.

Speaker 9:

It's odd but not urgent. I don't need your surgeon. Mask and encourage discomfort is hurting cause behind the curtain I'm neuro, neuro neurodivergent. If you accommodate me, it won't be so hard to tolerate me. I know that I can be grating, but I won't let you degrade me. If I'm disassociating, it's because I struggle with regulating my feelings and my attention, but I don't need your lessons. No, no, no, I'm neurodivergent.

Speaker 9:

Neurodivergent Don't sound like a word, cause your books are not current. My symptoms emergent Neurodivergent, seems we are different. It's odd, but not urgent. I don't need a surgeon. Ask and encourage, just comfort is hurting Cause behind the curtain I'm neural, neural, neural divergent. If you're boring, I might be a burden. Flapping my wings, I can fly like a bird. I'm the pro in procrastination. Thank you, space, but it's okay, cause Rome wasn't built in a day. Neurodivergent Don't sound like a word, cause your books are not current. My symptoms are emergent. Neurodivergent Seems. We are different. It's odd, but not urgent. I don't need a Surgeon. Asking in courage. Discomfort is certain Cause behind the curtain, I'm neuro, neuro Neurodivergent. You've never Met anyone Like me, ever Brighter. You've never met anyone like me Ever brighter than you've ever seen. Without my dose of dopamine, I'll burn out easily, so keep it interesting. I'm neurodivergent Don't sound like a word, cause your books are not current. My symptoms are emergent it seems we are different.

Speaker 4:

It's not burn out urgent. I don't need a surgeon. Bye, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm.

Speaker 10:

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm. Hiding deep within the trees, wanting to stay behind the scenes. Life's on repeat. Yeah, just waiting for us. I'll take the day I will To write a different chorus.

Speaker 10:

I realize that this guitar has not gotten me very far, but it helps me say what must be said. I can't explain just how I feel and I don't understand what I think is real. I got a song that must be sung instead. I got a song that must be sung instead. Listening to the waterfall Whispering, because I know I'm so damn small. When the sky is yellow and the sun is brilliant blue, I open up my heart and then I talk to you. I realize that this guitar has not gotten me very far, but it helps me say what must be said. I can't explain just how I feel and I don't understand what I think is real. I got a song that must be sung. Instead. I got a song that must be sung. I got a song that must be sung. I got a song. I got a song that must be sung.

Speaker 10:

I got a song. I got a song. I got a song that must be sung instead. I realize that this guitar has not gotten me very far, but it helps me say what must be said. I can't explain just how I feel and I don't understand what I think is real. I got a song that must be sung instead. I got a song that must be sung instead. I realize that this guitar has not gotten me very far, but it helps me say what must be said.

Speaker 2:

All right. Well, I hope I have everything straight now. This is Deb LaMotta. This is halfway through the week. I have C Stevens of Ashfall Jungle and Steve. Are you there, steve, from Word 66? Word 66,.

Speaker 11:

Yes, that Steve is here.

Speaker 2:

Yes, that Steve is here. I love when I have technical difficulties. Steve, how are you, and welcome to the show.

Speaker 11:

Thank you so much, deb, and happy 21st birthday.

Speaker 2:

Oh, my God, you're my favorite. Thank you so much. People have said 25 or 56. It's like 21. I actually had a good time at my 21st birthday. I'll tell that. That's a story for another time. I'd love to hear it. Well, I was living in Hollywood, to be honest, with you in California for my 21st birthday, so it doesn't get cooler than that.

Speaker 11:

Oh well, a little bit. I think I was there at the same time, when I was 21 as well.

Speaker 2:

Were you? Oh my God, yeah, I am. I actually I worked for the Disney's, for Roy Disney, and I dated his son for a while. So, yeah, I was pretty cool, very cool, very nice. But enough about me, steve. Steve, what's going on with the word 66 these days?

Speaker 11:

Well, we just finished coming out of the studio last week and we remixed a brand new track. It's called Faith is the Key. Oh nice, yeah, and that should be out shortly, we're hoping, probably in the next week or two. We shoot the video, oh cool, so we're pretty excited.

Speaker 2:

That is really cool. So when's the release day and the name again?

Speaker 11:

I'm not sure. Oh, okay, probably within the next few weeks, I would imagine. Okay, so we're trying to get all the ducks in a row. So right now, we're working on the album cover at the moment and then, like I said, we're going to shoot the video in a couple of weeks. So we're waiting for all the ducks to fall in a row.

Speaker 2:

Oh cool, your videos are cool.

Speaker 11:

Thank you?

Speaker 2:

Oh, you're welcome. Yeah, if you haven't seen the Word 66, go check out their website. I've seen a couple of your videos and who's your videographer.

Speaker 11:

We have a couple of different guys actually. Yeah, for this video. I think we're going back to the original guy who shot On the Way to the Promised Land. Oh, okay. Yeah, that one we did in the desert. So we're going to go back to this guy, Robert, and then the last video that we shot. As a matter of fact, the guy lives in LA and his name is Andreas and we brought him in to do that video for us.

Speaker 2:

Oh cool, and where are you guys located?

Speaker 11:

We are in Las Vegas. You're in Las Vegas, the Christian capital of the world. There you go, I like that.

Speaker 3:

I like the end of the promised land one. I like the video very much, thank you.

Speaker 11:

Thanks, I appreciate that. And, steve, I just heard your song for the first time and really impressive man I loved it.

Speaker 3:

Oh, thank you, man appreciate it, appreciate it very much.

Speaker 11:

And listen. It's going to do some good stuff for you.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it is, it already is, and I mean I got people like Deb here to thank for that really getting it out there and getting a buzz about it.

Speaker 2:

It's a great song and the video that goes along with that song. Have you seen the video, Steve? I have not. Oh my God, it's amazing. I won't give it away, but if you have a chance, go find the video, and yours on the desert was amazing. How long did that take to shoot.

Speaker 11:

You know that only took about four hours. Oh, that's not bad. That was not bad.

Speaker 2:

How hot was it.

Speaker 11:

At the time that we shot it actually it was really cold. So it was kind of in the wintertime, oh perfect. And it just so happened that that day, so it was kind of in the wintertime, oh perfect. And it just so happened that that day it was kind of like a freak day, because that day it was beautiful out, it was sunny, it was warm and and all again. Everything just fell into place, that's awesome wow yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

So who else makes up the word 66?

Speaker 11:

so. So we got Lance Crane on drums, of course myself on guitar, brian Torres on vocals and actually for the last record that we did, we're happy to say that we had Danny Miranda from Queen and Blue Oyster Cult actually playing bass on the record. Wow.

Speaker 2:

Those are some names to toss around, I know.

Speaker 11:

Not too shabby Not too shabby at all.

Speaker 2:

That's fantastic. Oh my God, what's up next for you guys? You're finishing up one project.

Speaker 11:

Yeah, we're just finishing that up. We want to go back in the studio again and record some more tracks. We definitely are planning on hitting the road for some short tours coming up a little bit later on, okay.

Speaker 2:

Which way are you headed? Are you headed like to the East Coast, like maybe Delaware?

Speaker 11:

That would be really cool.

Speaker 2:

That would be really cool. It would be really cool Just saying We'd love that.

Speaker 11:

You know we've got a pretty good following overseas as well, so we're going to see if we can squeeze some of that in as well.

Speaker 2:

Well, there you go, and you can just like stop right here in Maryland and drive. There is one little airport, but there's no major airports that come into Delaware, so you either have to. I'll give you the information. You can fly into Philadelphia, you can fly into Baltimore, washington DC, whichever one you like. That sounds like a plan. There you go and then you can travel on to Europe. I like that plan.

Speaker 11:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, all right. Well, I'm going to have you talk to my people and have that get arranged.

Speaker 2:

I like it. I'm going to have everybody that I talk to come to Delaware. I love Delaware and how I got started in talking and following indie artists was when I moved here two years ago. There's a huge indie artist group whatever indie artists here in Delaware and I first started and you've got to check out these guys. They're Lowercase Blues and they travel down to Florida and down the East Coast. They're amazing. So, anyway, I got hooked with them and that's how I ended up doing this Wednesday night show and talking to all you great indie artists.

Speaker 11:

Thank you and of course, we appreciate it as well. You know, you know it's funny, deb, because you know I never really realized such a plethora of indie talent that was out there myself and and being on a lot of these shows, you know it's, it's amazing. Yeah, I've become fans of so many bands that really should be so much further than they are.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you guys are in a tough business. You love what you do, you are passionate about what you do, and yet it's not easy to you easy to get up there being an indie artist.

Speaker 11:

Yeah, I mean we pretty much do it for the love of the music, exactly, exactly. You know it's not like it used to be. I mean, you know, people might be under the impression that you know these rock people are rich, oh really, and that might be like regular jobs and stuff like that. But that's not the case anymore.

Speaker 2:

See Stephen's chuckling. He knows exactly how that goes.

Speaker 3:

I was thinking about yeah, we're rich with pennies. That's about it.

Speaker 11:

Yeah, for sure, tons of copper. And a lot of hearts on facebook and it's funny because all these streams that we get, you could put that money together and buy like breakfast, you know, with it, you know well, that's the whole.

Speaker 2:

Well, not the whole thing, but and that just real quick, with the streaming platforms for the indie artists, um, or for any of the artists on the streaming platform, and making you don't even make a penny.

Speaker 11:

Yeah, it's, it's, it's pretty ridiculous.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah, it is but you know, I I'm probably gonna uh tickle some people off uh with saying this. But you know, uh, I some people off uh with saying this. But you know, I'm constantly seeing this on facebook. Oh, I'm I'm pulling my stuff from spotify. I'm so ticked off about this. You know what that's the biggest mistake you could do, because it's the big, it's the biggest platform out there. Okay, yeah, so you only get a quarter of a penny for your stream right, but still, you know what?

Speaker 3:

it's the biggest platform out there. So now you just denied yourself of maybe that one super fan that passes your song on to somebody important.

Speaker 11:

Absolutely, I completely agree with you. I completely agree with you because what we need to be is heard Period, absolutely. And if you take your stuff off and nobody hears you, then you're getting nowhere? You're getting nowhere. Absolutely Nobody knows who you are if you're not get nowhere. You get nowhere.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely Nobody knows who you are If you're not being played it would just be nice if it was just you know it just a little bit more than the 0.005, that or six that it is for you guys. But I see Stevens has said said this before and I do agree with him I mean, wherever you can be heard is is going to help you no matter what, and so I appreciate you guys coming on and talking about your music so that I could give you this platform to do just that.

Speaker 11:

And you are amazing. We thank you so much from the bottom of our hearts for doing that for all us indie artists.

Speaker 2:

Oh, you're welcome. It's just a little bit and it's my birthday, so I like it and that's why we celebrate. Exactly, exactly, oh my God. I was in the grocery store this afternoon on my way home and I was in. I was in line and I had a mom and her son behind me and I heard the little boy say something and the mom said no, you can ask her. And I she said excuse me. I said yes, she goes. He says what's your name? I said Debbie, he goes. Oh, and I said what's your name? And he said James. I said James, it's nice to meet you. I said to him, and it's my birthday.

Speaker 2:

He looked at me like lady you're crazy and I thought you know what, at my age, I get to do this. You ask me my name. I'm going to tell you it's my birthday.

Speaker 11:

Absolutely. So that's been my day Kids and grocery carts, oh my, God, I got to tell you I don't really make a big deal out of my birthday.

Speaker 2:

I don't usually either, but I'm freaking 65. I'm going to make a big deal.

Speaker 11:

Yeah, I get it. I kind of stopped celebrating my birthday many years ago. I don't know it. Just it doesn't. I don't know. It's not a big deal for me anymore, you know.

Speaker 3:

That's a guy thing.

Speaker 11:

It's a guy thing, we don't care about the birthday?

Speaker 12:

We don't care about the birthday. I mean, you know it's like we just don't care.

Speaker 3:

We really don't.

Speaker 9:

Oh my.

Speaker 2:

God, I was like I needed something for tonight's show. It's my birthday, so it worked. Oh my God, steve, thank you so much for hanging out with us for a little while, and we needed a good chuckle. It's halfway through the week and sometimes it's tough getting through our weeks, right? Yeah, oh, absolutely, absolutely, absolutely, all right. Steve, don't go anywhere. Let me spin something here. Oh, look, I happen to have I know it's been a night Silence. Oh, no, no, no, that was earlier. Guys, don't go anywhere. Tell me about the good times.

Speaker 6:

Tell me how and why. Tell me about the sorrow, because it means so much. Those walking beside you, they see what you've done. The holiest of all lives, thank you, the holiest of all, I feel the width from passion Like none before Sharing in his wisdom Because there's so much more Religious teachings. Cause it will save mankind. We'll follow in the written word and never look behind. Don't forget Thanks God when love is the only emotion.

Speaker 4:

Don't let yourself. Love is the only emotion Torn and assembled. So watch the end to your life and prepare for eternal devotion. Guitar solo. Rise from darkness.

Speaker 6:

Rise again. Let the world know that You've just begun. Always remember what he said to do when you stand before him, he will know the truth. Yeah, ooh, yeah. Cause you're the chosen one, holy is the foley. Cause you're the chosen one, holy is the foley. Cause you're the child of the wild Holy is the foley. Cause you're the child of the wild, holy is the foley. We'll be right back. Is there something you would like to say?

Speaker 4:

Is there a moment you would like to change and you would like the change? Can you sense it? All around here it comes crashing down. Take your chance. Don't throw away Times like this. You gotta save. Give it up, turn around, put your feet on solid ground. Give it up, turn around, put your feet on solid ground, fall out. You gotta be strong, fall out. You gotta be strong. You gotta take a bow. You gotta give some hope. You gotta take control. Are you checked out of life today? I love life today. Little did I know you had to change If the pieces move and Something's better left Unsaid Time to move on Down the road.

Speaker 3:

When it all comes Crashing down, we'll be right back. Turn around, put your feet on solid ground. For you, you gotta be strong. For you, you gotta take a fall. For you, you gotta give so. For you, you gotta take control. There's nothing more to say. I can't even talk to you. You keep pushing away when I'm trying to get around you guitar solo We'll be right back. Hey, this is C Stevens of Asphalt Jungle and you're listening to Halfway Through the Week with your host, deb LaMotta.

Speaker 2:

That's right, I am Deb LaMotta. This is Halfway Through the Week, it is April 10th at 838, and it is 65 degrees here in Delaware. We've been having some really nice weather the last couple days. Last week I was on vacation from school and we had like three long days of rain, but the sun is out and and here we are. We are definitely halfway through the week. So my guest tonight has been my co-host, c C Stevens of Asphalt Jungle, and that is the song that you just heard will be his soon to be released song. For now, and C Stevens, I can't wait for the whole album to come out. And also our special guest tonight is Christina Isaac, and Christina is from North Carolina. So hello, hello guys, hey how are you?

Speaker 2:

I'm well, thank you so, Christina. Who is Christina Isaac?

Speaker 7:

Well, before I say who Christina Isaac is, I just have one thing that I want to do yes, for you, deb. Oh.

Speaker 8:

Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday, dear Deb. Happy birthday to you.

Speaker 2:

Oh, christina, thank you, you have such a beautiful voice. Oh my gosh, oh my gosh, thank you. I appreciate that so much. Oh my gosh, absolutely.

Speaker 7:

We can't do a birthday without singing happy birthday. This is so true.

Speaker 2:

Oh, thank you, I appreciate it.

Speaker 3:

And we were not going to have C Stevens do it Hell no.

Speaker 2:

No, but you could do some mean guitar to it for it. There you go, that's it, keep it in my wheelhouse. Oh my gosh, Christina, thank you so much. All right, you're welcome.

Speaker 7:

Thank you for having me. I'm so excited to be with you tonight.

Speaker 2:

You are welcome. Yeah, I was telling C Stevens earlier that Mark Johnson had been talking about you on his show and it's like oh, I've got to find out who Christina Isaac is, and so we connected, we had a phone call and here we are. So, yeah, tell us a little about who Christina Isaac is, where you're from and how you ended up where you are.

Speaker 7:

Sure, well, I mean, at the moment I am a woman who is currently on a journey to her purpose, and so I know exactly what my purpose is, and so I'm just kind of I'm on this boat and I'm just kind of floating and however it floats to and however it goes. That's just kind of where I will be. But I'm originally from California but I am here in the Raleigh-Durham area in North Carolina.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's a nice journey from California to North Carolina.

Speaker 7:

All the way across the country.

Speaker 2:

Okay, but both beautiful places. Where in California were you located?

Speaker 7:

I was actually in North Hollywood. I grew up in North Hollywood.

Speaker 2:

Ah, yes, I remember talking about that. Yeah, so I didn't grow up in North Hollywood, but that's where I lived when I moved out to California was North Hollywood. I can't remember the streets, but that was a couple of years ago. Oh my God. So, how did you meet Mark?

Speaker 7:

Johnston. For years we were in a large band together it's a volunteer band considered a community band out of Apex North Carolina and he and I met in that band. So we played together for quite a few years until he left and I left last year, but we've stayed connected. Yeah, we've stayed connected. He's such a magnificent person and just a great artist and he's just super sweet and so I love him and his family. So, yeah, he's a great friend of mine.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, he really is just a really nice guy. Great music and down to earth and, yeah, I enjoy talking to him as well. Really, really, really great. Did you take some time off from music?

Speaker 7:

I did so. I actually started singing when I was nine, wow, and my dad he lived in Hollywood. He took a liking to my voice. When I was young, he heard my voice and decided to start putting me into music lessons, voice lessons, working with all kinds of different artists. I started touring and singing all throughout the LA area from the time I was nine until probably about in my early twenties. So he was my, he was like my manager, so he put a lot of time and effort and energy into creating Christina the artist, right.

Speaker 7:

But you know, as a young person and all you're doing is music and you're not really living a teenage life, you know're, you start to want to want other things and plus, back then it just took so much to become an artist. Yeah, um, you know, nowadays it it's a lot easy. I heard you all talking about you know the streaming platforms and how you can get your songs out all across the country or even outside of the country, all over the world, with these platforms, and I didn't have that back in the day. It was.

Speaker 7:

You go into the studio, you record, you put it on a CD and then you try to shop it to different labels, and so you know, as a young person, you're like you get tired. You get tired of always performing and then it's not going anywhere. And you know you're putting your music out there and and it's not really going anywhere, right? And also, you know I, you know my dad, wanted me to have this certain image and to be this certain person, and when you have to be somebody else, you know, I just wasn't, I wasn't feeling a lot of that, and so you're always, you're always on, yeah yeah, exactly, and so I just I decided to, you know, do something different and choose life and become a mom and get married and all that good stuff.

Speaker 7:

Instead, I kind of got away from the music part of it, because my mom passed away when I was in my early 20s and she was one of my biggest fans, so she would come to all of them. She would never miss a show. Wow.

Speaker 7:

And she was my biggest, biggest fan and when she passed the flame just kind of died and I just stopped writing, I stopped, I even stopped singing for quite a while. I wouldn't even like sing to the radio, wow, because I just kind of I was in this depressed state for quite a while missing her.

Speaker 7:

So yeah, that's a tough period. It was a tough period but you know, music was always in me. It's just I kind of lost that flame for being creative. I guess is is what it is right um, that creativity was was kind of gone um.

Speaker 2:

but yeah, yeah. So you took the time off and, as you said, wife, mom, kids and the family life, and then you got the spark again.

Speaker 7:

Yeah, and unfortunately I got the spark because my father actually passed away last year from cancer. Oh, my goodness, yeah, he. We didn't know that he had stage four cancer and he didn't even know he had stage four cancer. So he was sick for about about six months and I was flying back and forth to California all that time trying to just check on him and seeing what's going on with them and and then finally, you know, towards the end, we found out that it was cancer. Finally, you know, towards the end, we found out that it was cancer.

Speaker 7:

So I was able to be there by his side when he passed in the hospital and so I promised him and I promised myself that because of all the time that he had put into me and developing me and my career and my music, because I wouldn't be the singer that I am today without him, yep, that whatever that looked like, I would go back to it. I would go back to I mean, I've always been singing in bands and and singing live but but really truly giving myself back to music and getting back to that creative side is what I promised I would do for both of us. Wow.

Speaker 7:

And yeah, so that's how I got back to writing.

Speaker 2:

Which then led you to your new release.

Speaker 7:

Yeah, which is funny because, you know, because of the difference in time, you know, my dad took care of everything back in those days, so all I did was go into the studio, I wrote, went into the studio, recorded, he took care of everything else.

Speaker 7:

And so, going back into it, I'm like I don't know how to do this.

Speaker 7:

I don't even know where to begin, and so I actually put a, an ad on Upwork, and it was just like a partial ad to just kind of say oh you know, I'm available to do recordings if you have music and you want to hire a singer, you know.

Speaker 7:

So I just kind of, I just kind of put something out there and I wasn't even really expecting anything, and it was actually sitting up there for quite a while, and then all of a sudden, I got an email from someone stating that they needed me to do some vocals on a track, and I ignored it because I'm like I don't know who this person is, I'm like who in the world? And I ignored it, like I kept getting it and I got it like four times oh, wow. And so finally I decided to answer it and the craziest thing is is like I'm not into rap music at all. Like I mean nothing against rap music, I love it. You know, it's like everyone is great in their right, in their space but it's not something that I would typically just kind of go to right.

Speaker 7:

And this was a rap artist and he wanted me to sing the hook on some of his songs. So I'm like okay, so I go there. I find out that he's like an hour away from me, so I go to this studio and I get in there and he just lets me be creative with this, with his hook on his song. That's crazy and it just I don't know it. Just it brought back everything in me. That's what you needed and it kind of right. I think that was the spark that I needed.

Speaker 7:

And he's an indie artist as well. He's an indie rapper, ben Michelle, and he's awesome. I mean, his music is great, his lyrics are amazing, he's very, you know, he's a realist, and so we just kind of really clicked and so that's what brought the spark back, like he's very. He was just really um, inspiring and telling me you know, you need to do this, you need to do this and you can do it. So I've been using that studio to record my stuff. Yeah, so I I actually did so. Never too late is not the first song that I wrote and recorded. I have another song that I wrote and recorded, but I'm not. I want to fix it and finish it first before.

Speaker 7:

I release it okay but um, but never too late. I decided to go with that one because it's I don't know. I love the way that it came out, I just love the whole flow of it and just the message of it and it's you know, all of my music. I want it to be positive, Like I want it to be inspiring and just you know, make people smile and be happy, and so we need Never Too Late is what I wanted as my single.

Speaker 2:

I've loved listening to that song and I've been spinning it many times, not only for the music. I appreciate it Absolutely, Not only for the music but for your beautiful voice and your message. Thank you so much. I appreciate that.

Speaker 3:

It is a killer track. It really is, yeah.

Speaker 2:

We were talking about you off air before we got you on the phone. Just incredible.

Speaker 7:

Thank you, and you know, and it's tough when you like, when you are creative and you're thinking of how you want things to be in the words, and it's your feelings, because this is, this is your emotions that you're sharing with other people. Yeah, you know, and so for me it was a little scary because I'm like I don't know if people are going to really like I think I like this you know is this going to be?

Speaker 7:

is this going to be good and so, yeah, so it took a lot of courage for me to even put that one out and, as you can see, like I just started all of this, even the Facebook page, you know, a month ago, basically, and so all of this is just, it's just, it's new, but I'm loving it and I don't really care whether it blows all the way up or not. It's music, I love it and I get a chance to express myself Powerful, yeah. And then people like you, who took the time to just really connect with those that wouldn't be considered mainstream artists, and you're providing a platform for us to be able to share our gifts all throughout the world. You know, it's just, it's an amazing thing, and so you're, you're doing some great work for us and we truly appreciate it.

Speaker 2:

So, thank you, thank you. I appreciate that I've said I've said this before. This show kind of evolved into what it is today. I didn't really start. I wasn't quite sure what I was doing with my Wednesday night show, but it just has blown me away because I meet incredible indie artists, really, really nice people like yourself and Shane and all the others that have taken the time to to come on. I mean, you guys work, you know full-time jobs, um do your music full-time and it's it's a lot.

Speaker 2:

So I'm I'm happy to be able to do the little part that I do for you guys. So, um, I appreciate the kind words as well. So, thank you, you're welcome. So let me ask you jam biscuit where didiscuit come from? I do my research, I do my research.

Speaker 7:

Yes, ma'am, and I'm so glad you asked. So Jam Biscuit is. So that's my band, okay, and we, actually we got together about four years ago, accidentally. So Billy Powell, who was also with this community band a long time ago, he kept asking me to come to this open mic at a bar in a place called Fuquay Verena, north Carolina, and it's called the Feigning Goat and everybody always cracks up at the name of the bar, but they have an open mic jam every Thursday. Well, they did. Well, I think they still do, and he kept trying to get me to come out to this and I kept saying I don't want to go, I don't want to do that, and you know. So I finally went one night and I had a blast and they, they loved my voice and so the owner of the Fainting Goat, mary Ann, she was like oh okay, so you guys are now in the band, you're ready to. You know, we need you to come and do a gig here and we're like what?

Speaker 4:

Are you sure?

Speaker 7:

And it was like two weeks. It was like in two weeks. So we're like, oh, wow, Okay, well, I guess we better get a practice together and we need to come up with a name. So you know, Billy and I and at the time it was a couple of others that were in the band that aren't with us anymore but we were like, okay, well, we know we are, you know we're jammers, we love to jam. You know, we don't really flow or follow a certain pattern, we just kind of, we just jam, Do your thing. And so I think someone called out biscuit or something. And so we're like there you go, we're jam biscuit.

Speaker 3:

That's one of the best names to come out.

Speaker 2:

That's what we really do. I love that story.

Speaker 7:

We have a blast and you know we play all kinds of different music. You know we don't stick with just one genre. I've learned so many different songs that I would have never sung before. I do country. I've never done the country before and you know we do some old school R&B that's so cool. We do blues oh my gosh, yeah. So it's like it's a whole bunch of different. It's a variety type band I guess you would call it.

Speaker 7:

We perform all throughout the area, but mostly our biggest fan crew is in the Fuquay-Varina North Carolina area, so I got to give a shout out to them because they come to all of our shows no matter where we're at and so, um, but yeah, but I have a blast. I'm, I'm, I'm a, I am a live art, like a live artist, like I love to sing out live oh, with a live band and um but you know, yeah yeah, so I really enjoy it.

Speaker 2:

I have a great time wow well, I absolutely love the name jam biscuit and uh, I, I absolutely I'm so glad that you got that spark um from um. Who was it again? What was his? Name ben michelle, that you got. You know that, yeah, that he uh was able to draw you back in, and now you're, you're on your way.

Speaker 7:

So what? How does that make you feel? I feel amazing. I made a decision a couple of years ago that you know I was just going to go for it with life, for no matter what it is. You know it. Just I started a nonprofit, you know, last year, and I'm doing real estate full time and I'm doing my nonprofit and now I'm back to my singing. So I'm just kind of living this free life, I guess.

Speaker 2:

Oh my gosh.

Speaker 7:

Yeah, because life is short, and so, you know, we went through the pandemic. A lot of people lost their lives Absolutely, and you know, I lost my father last year. My mom was only 50 when she passed away. And so I'm just like I want to live, I want to, I want to grab hold of everything that this life has for me, and I don't want to put myself in a box and I don't want to be, you know, afraid. I don't want to walk through life afraid, and so I want to just go for all of it and so I'm just I'm enjoying where I'm at right now.

Speaker 7:

That's great. I'm just really happy that I can get back to my singing well, my writing and my recording, and so my my plan is to have a full album done by father's day, because I want to dedicate it to my dad and I want to have a release party. That would be great, yeah, so it'll. It'll be for him.

Speaker 2:

So you're going to do the, are you going to do a live release party?

Speaker 7:

I would love to. I'm sorry we're going to have a party party. Yeah, I would love, I really love to, but I, you know, I got to get back to the studio and finish the rest of the songs and I got love. I really love to, but I, you know, I got to get back to the studio and finish the rest of the songs and I gotta, I gotta get some more. I gotta get some more songs in my head.

Speaker 2:

All right, we'll let you. We'll let you do that. Oh my gosh, let me ask you this question who's your biggest supporter?

Speaker 7:

Oh gosh, I wouldn't say that, it's just one person. I have so many different people in my life that have poured into me in so many areas, from my family to my friends, you know, even to the band Mark, you know, and Ben. So I mean it's, I can't just say one person.

Speaker 2:

It takes a village, it takes a village sometimes right, it really does.

Speaker 7:

I mean even my real estate family, you know they've just been so supportive of me, and so it's a blessing to have people in your life that truly love and care for you and want to see you succeed and win, and so I'm just thankful to have so many different people in my life.

Speaker 2:

That's great, because sometimes people can be so negative or you know, if you're starting you've been in the business for a long time. But coming back into to starting your career again, you know people can be a little negative. And so right.

Speaker 4:

I'm being kind.

Speaker 3:

Sorry, sorry, I'm being kind, sorry, sorry, I'll behave. I'll behave.

Speaker 7:

But the song kind of encompasses that right Right.

Speaker 2:

Never too late.

Speaker 7:

It's never too late to fall in love. It's never too late to run after your dreams.

Speaker 2:

That's right.

Speaker 7:

You know it's never too late, no, and so don't allow other people to tell you what you can and cannot do, because anything and everything is possible.

Speaker 2:

So go and I say it about myself as well, um, because I keep reinventing myself and I I will not, you know, stop until I can't do anything more. The other person that comes to mind, um, judy, sings the blues. If you don't follow her, follow her. She's great, great blues singers here, right here in delaware. She started her career. She didn't. She didn't start her career until she was 55 I think she was 55 or 60, yeah, um, so, yeah, it's never too late. She decided you know she had done I think she had done some singing in the beginning. Um started her career, but then then she did. She got married, had her children, raised her children and took care of all of them and then, once everybody was out, then she also then really started her career then. So check her out.

Speaker 7:

She's another great lady. Awesome, I definitely will.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, because it's never too late for anything. You just have to kind of push yourself to do it sometimes and you'll just be better for it. What's one of your biggest highlights so far?

Speaker 7:

coming back, Um, well, again, all of this, I mean even even just just being on the phone with the two of you, I mean it's, this is just, it's amazing. You know, it's just like I, like I said, you know just, the times of technology, yeah, um, and to be able to have this platform and to be able to just to be able to express to myself and to share it with so many different people, I mean, how else would I have met you?

Speaker 7:

right, we wouldn't have no no, so it's, it's the all of, is a highlight, just this whole time of my life and I and I, I don't see any of it as small. It's all huge. You know what I mean? It's just a big thing, and so I'm just thankful and I'm grateful and I just feel so blessed and so, yeah, so I'm just I'm excited, I'm excited for you.

Speaker 2:

So yeah, so I'm just, I'm excited, I'm excited for you, absolutely, oh my gosh. So you're going to put the album together for a release by Father's Day? Do you have any?

Speaker 7:

other projects you're working on? No nothing other than Jam Biscuit, keeping me busy almost every weekend.

Speaker 4:

Well, there you go.

Speaker 7:

So, yeah, and if you all want to, we'll be at a place called lorraine's. It's in garner, north carolina, but they stream. They stream the uh, the show, yeah, so you'll all be able to check us out. That's so cool because, yeah, april the 20th that we're trying.

Speaker 2:

We're hoping to do that on the r2rbcom as well, but there's a place here, um, it's at the delaware, pennsylvania, um, up that way up north from where I am called jamie's house of music and they do the live streaming. Um, okay, yeah not only do the, do the live streaming, they, they will they charge, which is like, oh okay, I don't mind doing that yeah, so I think they charge too, but I think it's only like ten dollars.

Speaker 7:

Yeah, that's what. Yeah, yeah, because the other.

Speaker 2:

yeah, because the other blues singer down here is Gretchen Emery Band. Oh my God, they're awesome too, and she was there. And that's the first time I heard about the pay-per-view, the live coming from Jamie. So, yeah, that's a great idea. So, yeah, you're going to have to email me the information so I can definitely tune in.

Speaker 3:

We'll get everybody tuned in. Yeah, you need to email that to me, Deb, okay. I will. Yeah, because I want to check some Jamf. I want to check some Jamf Biscuit.

Speaker 6:

We want some Jamf Biscuit.

Speaker 3:

Absolutely.

Speaker 7:

Yeah, you've got to check out Jamf Biscuit oh my God, Absolutely.

Speaker 2:

Oh my gosh, Christina, tell everybody where they can find you Social media website, how to book you.

Speaker 7:

Sure, so, again, all this is new. So I don't have my own website, but I do have the Jam Biscuit website, jamjambiscuitbandcom. But I do have my own Facebook and my own Instagram and that's Christina Isaac music. So, and it's Christina with a K, k, r, I, s, t, I N, a, I, s, a, a, c, because a lot of times people spell it with a, c, h, but yeah, so, but yeah, you, yeah, but you can always reach me through the jam biscuit bandcom website or, like I said, you can reach me on my Facebook or Instagram. I do have a TikTok. I need to do better about it. I don't really do anything on it, but, again, all of this is new, so I'm trying to. I'm learning how to get with the time.

Speaker 2:

That's it. Yeah, you will. It will all work for you and Christina, I'm so happy that you joined us tonight. I know C Stevens and I both enjoyed speaking to you. Again, wish you good luck with your career. We'll be following you. I really, really love your voice and thank you so much for singing Happy Birthday to me tonight. Absolutely. Thank you so much for having me. You are welcome. Don't go anywhere. Let me spin a song and then we'll wrap it up.

Speaker 4:

All right, we'll be right back. You think you're big with your so-called friends. You taunt and tease, but there'll soon be an end From the shadows. We've been watching you. We know the evil you're putting people through. It's not time to run the evil you put people through. It's no time to run. It's no time. That's gone. There are things that are worse than you.

Speaker 6:

You're not the master, you're just a fool.

Speaker 4:

A pariah Part of the demon inside Gonna. Rip you out Of your foolish pride. You're a liar With hollow eyes. Now watch this demon Cut you down to size. You're a bully and bullies can beat. The bullies can beat you. Just don't go through. The hell with you. You're just a fool. So to hell with you. You've no idea what. I'm gonna put you through the laughs and jokes With no means to an end.

Speaker 6:

Maybe I'm stuck With your so called friends.

Speaker 5:

The tables are turned.

Speaker 6:

You should have learned that, doing what you do, my evil karma would come after you. I'm a riot Part of the demon inside Gonna rip you out of your foolish pride.

Speaker 4:

You're a liar With hollow eyes. Now watch this demon cut you down to size and bullies get beat, bullies get beat, bullies get beat, bullies get beat. Boys can beat.

Speaker 2:

Boys can beat. Guitar solo. You're mine guitar solo. Rise and reach. You're a bully. You're a police. You're a bully, a pariah. Part of the demon inside Gonna rip you out Of your foolish pride. You're a liar With hollow eyes. Now watch this demon. Cut you down to size. You're a fool. And boys can beat. And hey, it's Deb LaManna and we are halfway through the week. It is April 10th, it is 910. Oh my gosh, it's 64 degrees here in Delaware and I have to have to say I'm having a great time tonight. I'm having a blast with C Stevens and, so far, steve from the Word 66 and Christina Isaac. And on the line with us now is Joe Spiller of Freaky Things. Joe, how are you?

Speaker 12:

It is getting ready to be freaky. Let me tell you Are we live.

Speaker 2:

We are live, we are live.

Speaker 12:

All right, so let me start off. Okay, I must wish you, deb, a happy 20th birthday.

Speaker 3:

You suck up.

Speaker 4:

I love it.

Speaker 12:

Because now you're my favorite, it's nuts that Steve went on first before me because he could have done the same thing. I was getting ready to sing you happy birthday to Christina and I was like nah I ain't going there. I'm not going there, exactly.

Speaker 2:

She has a beautiful voice. Oh, my God.

Speaker 12:

It was incredible.

Speaker 2:

Well, I appreciate it. Thank you so much. So what the hell with Freaky Things? What's going on with you guys?

Speaker 12:

Oh man, there's always something going on. It was never in, hey. So yeah, basically we started this whole thing last year, me and Chuck me and Chuck me and Chuck Garland. Yep, we pretty much built this thing. Just, we've known each other forever. We were in a band way, way, way back in the day. Okay, so we're older too, but it we were in a band way, way, way back in the day, okay, um, so we're older too, uh, but it was, it just evolved and this is what we're doing.

Speaker 2:

I love it I love it. Yeah, it's crazy yeah, well, that's what it's all about. So how long have you guys been together?

Speaker 12:

uh, so we launched freaky things last may, I think is when we launched and, um, there's, there's like two different versions of freaky things. I think people are starting to get this now, okay, so sorry because I know what he's talking about.

Speaker 3:

It's kind of freaky uh, because I know what he's talking about.

Speaker 12:

It's kind of freaky. I think the big thing about us is what we started Freaky Thing for was just for our regular type music, just our heavy hard party rock. We like to have fun. That's our number one rule. We always have fun doing whatever we want to do. And then, uh, we created, like um, the, the first ep we we launched with magic songs, uh, which is based off magic, the gathering, yeah.

Speaker 2:

So we picked five their closet nerds I yeah, I saw that and I was like, oh, look at that.

Speaker 12:

I saw that and I was like oh, look at that. You took five cards and wrote five songs about it and it just kind of blew up on us. So right now we're in the middle of writing Magic Songs, volume 2, because everybody loved the first one, and in between that we're releasing singles. We're throwing things at the wall. Right at this moment You're killing it.

Speaker 2:

When I went to your website and I was looking at the magic cards, at first I'm like what the hell? And then it's like You're not the only one.

Speaker 12:

I don't know anything about it.

Speaker 3:

It all comes from Chucky, yeah.

Speaker 12:

Hey, whatever works, and he would just send me stuff Right before we wrote this. He would send me stuff and he goes what do you think about this? And I go I'm game, I'm in, let's go. I'm reading these. What the fuck are we talking about? I'm game, I'm in, let's go. I'm reading these words and I go what the fuck are? We talking about. I'm sorry.

Speaker 3:

It wasn't me. I told you it wouldn't be me tonight.

Speaker 2:

It's okay, it's after nine.

Speaker 12:

So those words weren't that bad really. I mean on that first one. Now, the second one that we're on, it's like off the charts. I had to go read Google to figure out what the hell I'm speaking about.

Speaker 2:

It's all in the magic.

Speaker 12:

It hurts. I mean, I'm like doing vocals on these tracks and I'm laughing halfway through it. I mean, I'm like doing vocals on these tracks and I'm laughing. Halfway through it I have to stop and read oh great, until I understood it. And then I went back and read about it. I was like, okay, now I understand what he's saying.

Speaker 2:

There you go.

Speaker 12:

Then I got it.

Speaker 2:

A little research goes a long way.

Speaker 12:

This how we rolled it. I mean I like it, it, it made. I mean, I have so much fun doing this um, even our regular stuff, I mean just all of it. I just, and we, we were out of the game for a while and then we just came back and started, started writing, you know, recording and all that, and I'm glad you did that.

Speaker 12:

I think I heard Christina earlier when she was talking. It was like that was the same thing. We were out of it, got back into it and now I don't want to leave it. Good, good, there's no way, I want to leave it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, let me ask you a question. I want to ask you about Bullies. Get Beat with Miss Hyde.

Speaker 12:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

How'd that come about?

Speaker 12:

so, uh, yeah, miss hyde, uh yeah, we have a great relationship, of course and um, she was like one of the first people that came out and just started playing us, you know, and um, then we started chatting online and all that and um, she, she had somebody like uh email her about being bullied. I remember being bullied man in middle school. I went through this bad phase. It was horrible, the feelings where you're walking down a hall you have to take a different route to get to where you're going.

Speaker 3:

Sorry, I didn't mean to do that to you, Joe. I was a jerk back then.

Speaker 8:

I don't think to do that to you. Joe, I was a jerk back then. I didn't think you were that.

Speaker 12:

Oh my God. No, it's a video For real. She wrote some lyrics based off this conversation with her oh, wow and she goes. If anybody in the world can pull this off creepy things can pull it off, wow. So she calls me and she goes. If anybody in the world can pull this off, freezy Things can pull it off Wow. So she calls me and she goes will you guys consider writing the music and incorporating my lyrics into it? And I was like absolutely, let me send it to Chuck, you know.

Speaker 2:

Wow.

Speaker 12:

So I mean, it took us like two or three days. We had this thing pretty much written. I really didn't have to change any of her lyrics at all. I added a couple. I actually added the you know you're a bully, bullies get beat you know, oh cool it was missing from right there and I was like let's, let's get to the punchline. Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 12:

I sent it, you know we sent it to her and kind of surprised her and all that it. You know it was amazing. I love the song. I think it really is.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah. I mean, it's a big message. It's a big, powerful message right there. Yeah. You know, I mean, I was bullied as a young girl as well. It's awful, absolutely, awful. It's awful, absolutely awful.

Speaker 12:

It's one of the horrible things you can do as a kid. Yeah, and even adults get bullied for shooting, you know? I mean with the Internet nowadays, oh, it's terrible.

Speaker 3:

Well, yeah, because people can hide behind these. You know, hide behind everything and do it.

Speaker 2:

Right.

Speaker 3:

I was lucky I mean part of it, I think raised in canada. Uh has a lot to do with it, but I, I was lucky that I didn't go through that and uh, you know and, but I I have seen it even in my adult life happen at the workplace and things like that.

Speaker 3:

It turns my stomach yeah, it really does and and I feel bad for everybody that has ever went through it because, again, like I said, I don't know what you're feeling and I do empathize with that. I do know I know it probably would have it changed me if it did happen in a bad way, because how I do it, like I said, I see it even in a movie.

Speaker 8:

It turns my stomach and yeah so I can just imagine, I see, it even in a movie.

Speaker 2:

It turns my stomach and yeah.

Speaker 3:

So I can just imagine If I got bullied, how I probably Would have just been crushed. So I'm lucky. I am lucky that I've never gone through that. I really am.

Speaker 12:

The message of the song is Incredible. Her lyrics are great. I mean, like I didn't have to change Hardly anything at all. She even had a third verse that the chorus was so long that we basically had to cut off the third verse, but it didn't matter, it really hit home. I think it's probably one of the songs I'm most proud of ever.

Speaker 2:

Rightfully so.

Speaker 12:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Really cool song. What do you got?

Speaker 3:

It blew my mind when I heard it. I'll tell you that right now. It blew my mind when I heard it.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, Absolutely, Without a doubt. I mean, and it's sad that you know people are still getting bullied yeah, Powerful messages tonight with Neurodivergent.

Speaker 12:

That's a fantastic song. Oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Not Too Late by Christina Never give up, it's never too late. Like you guys, you might have stopped, stopped, but you've come back and come back tenfold. You know so absolutely what. What else is cooking? Got anything in the well, you got videos and you got music and you got magic cards we just released a new song.

Speaker 12:

Well, it's not like on the streaming services yet. Um, this, this is the weird thing about me and chuck we're just like on the streaming services, yet this is the weird thing about me and Chuck we're just like off the rails. We'll do anything in a spur of the moment, kind of thing, and Chuck goes. I've got a song that I'm bringing back. I was actually out of town for work last week, all week in Nashville, where he's at, actually, which is kind of funny but he goes.

Speaker 12:

I want to do this thing, I want to do this song, but I don't want to tell you about it. He goes there's something you wrote. I go. What do you tell me? That's crazy, man. What do you do? He goes. You wrote it a few years back, but I think I've done some other things too, and I got somebody else to come in and do it and I don't want to tell you about it. But I do need you to come. You know I'm kind of freaking out now, but I'm like going, he goes. I need you to come downtown when you're available, the last day of work or whatever.

Speaker 12:

I need you to film a video for me, just a little short video and I'm going what are you talking about? How the hell can I do a video when I don't know what it's all about? I don't even know what the song is. I don't know what we're talking about. So, anyways, I went with, chuck, did what he wanted to do, and so we premiered that the other night on another show. And it was. And so we premiered that the other night on another show. And it was amazing hearing it, because I didn't know what he was doing. You know, yeah, right, when it kicked in, I knew the song. Of course, good thing With my, you know, sometimes my drinking or whatever. Who knows about it?

Speaker 3:

Oh he said it.

Speaker 12:

He plays it. And then he had another fantastic musician, bobby King. Oh yeah, oh my God, you know, bobby, yeah, came in and did some spoken word thing at the end. Uh, it's called harlot's charm. Oh, wow, uh. So we, we just did a video, just released that on the youtube and then, uh, streaming services should pick it up anytime here. Oh awesome, don't? Oh awesome, don't do that. You know we did it.

Speaker 2:

Hey, that's what it's all about, right.

Speaker 12:

Yeah, absolutely yeah. And I was like yeah, thanks for doing that, dude, and all that. You know we're texting after you know. I found out about it and we played it and I knew which one it was. He goes okay. Yeah, let's go back to Magic Songs. We got to start working on this.

Speaker 2:

Let's do it. We got to get it done. I like him.

Speaker 4:

Wasn't my fault. I like Chuck.

Speaker 3:

Chuckie is a force. Chuck is a force man. He is a force.

Speaker 12:

Chuck is amazing, he's so artistic.

Speaker 2:

Well, hey, both you guys are, you know, off the charts Because there's this little thing here the 2024 ISA Awards nominee. Oh yeah, that little little freaky thing. Album of the Year, band of the Year, single of the Year, music Video of the Year and Emerging Artist. What the?

Speaker 12:

That was kind of. That was kind of fun to be a part of. The voting is still going on, so please go vote.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely, and the voting goes on until the end of April.

Speaker 12:

Yeah, until the end of April.

Speaker 2:

And you can vote once a day.

Speaker 12:

Yep once a day.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, see, I know.

Speaker 12:

Use a different computer or VPN VPN.

Speaker 3:

There you go, folks. I told you he was a bad influence.

Speaker 2:

Oh my God, when are you guys located?

Speaker 12:

So I'm in Kansas City, kansas, and Chuck is in Nashville. Oh, wow.

Speaker 12:

Yeah, we can't play live right now. Okay, that's kind of a goal. Chuck's from here, oh, okay, but his family all lives in nashville, of course, and uh, so hopefully one day they're, you know, making their way back here where we can do, we're, you know, do something live. But we'll figure that out one day. We're not too worried about that right now, we're just having so much fun. Uh, we have a band rule. We only have one rule. Yeah, it's always got to be fun have fun.

Speaker 2:

Yep, I'm looking at these covers of the magic cards, magic songs, volume 1. This is so cool. I always like to do my background research and I'm telling you this is crazy it's really it's kind of a little niche for us.

Speaker 12:

I don't know, but it's kind of a little niche for us. You know, I don't know what we're doing that, but it really picked up a lot of steam. And when we released that at the beginning, I was like I don't even know how to promote this. I mean, I wasn't even really on Facebook that much yet. Right.

Speaker 12:

Yeah, I think we had one little single. I was testing out that, started meeting people, but I didn't even know how to promote it. I mean, I was going to the Magic the Gathering community, you know, in Facebook, you know they have all them groups, right, I was trying to be a nice guy, all right. I talked to their admin and I'm like, hey, is it okay if I like promote this? You know it's related to what you're doing. No, we'll ban you. We'll ban you if you try to promote your stuff. I go dude, really, it's about what you're doing. Hello, so that was a horrible experience. So basically, we knew people that could help us. I guess if you're in there you can promote. I don't even know.

Speaker 5:

You'll figure it out.

Speaker 12:

I don't like to be mad. I'm a happy guy.

Speaker 2:

Yeah that's all right, you'll be good, it will all be good. It's all in the cards.

Speaker 12:

I'm good now oh you didn't.

Speaker 2:

See what I did there. It said it's all in the cards.

Speaker 12:

It's all in the cards, oh Bada boom, bada boom. You don't mind if I use that right, I'll you know, oh brother, oh my.

Speaker 3:

God, I gotta ask when you're doing your research, did you watch the video for Nightmare? I was afraid that's my jam right there. That is my freaky things jam right there. Nightmare is a killer song. I love the video.

Speaker 2:

Joe's all done up.

Speaker 9:

He is.

Speaker 12:

I'm like one eye open, I turn into a vampire. Ooh Ooh, ooh yeah.

Speaker 3:

Oh, it's great.

Speaker 2:

Tales of the lovesick sleepwalkers. I can't even talk now.

Speaker 3:

You guys have been doing shots that I don't know about, we've got to keep you on the straight and narrow Shane. I know I'm on the wagon forever. Oh, my God.

Speaker 2:

Joe, this has been great. I appreciate you coming on tonight.

Speaker 12:

Talking all freaky. Like I said, happy birthday, thank you. I'll be at 19 again.

Speaker 3:

Now he's going to take it down another year.

Speaker 12:

Okay 21, we can't go too far.

Speaker 2:

No 21. 21 is good, you know, because it's kind of legal. What happens in Hollywood stays in Hollywood.

Speaker 12:

That's right.

Speaker 2:

Here we see my, oh, my God. Well, when you and Chuck get on the road together. You got to come to Delaware.

Speaker 12:

Love to All right. One day we're going to get around, oh, absolutely.

Speaker 4:

Oh my.

Speaker 12:

God.

Speaker 2:

You guys, you have made my God, you guys, you have made my birthday. This show has made my birthday. I have had a great day. My coworkers had my office all decorated when I walked in this morning and they had cupcakes. So I appreciate all of them. I appreciate my parents, who made sure I had a cupcake with a candle in it. Tonight we're going out on Saturday we improvised tonight. And to Steve of the Word 66 and Christina Isaac and Joe Spiller of Freaky Things, oh my God, thank you so much. I really do appreciate. And Shane C Stevens, asphalt Jungle Listen everybody. Please make sure that you go find everybody. And actually, joe, why don't you tell everybody exactly where they can find you before I sign you out?

Speaker 12:

Yeah, pretty much everything is linked to Freaky things music. Um, that's our websitecom.

Speaker 2:

Everything else is freaky things music at you know, and please go find them, like them, share them, comment them. Um, you find them on streaming. Wherever you listen to your music, go buy their music. Everybody that has been on the show tonight, please do you know, those that are both, and everybody that was on the show. Don't go anywhere, the two of you. I just want to say goodnight to everybody out there. I really enjoyed, as I said, tonight's show Out of the attic. Nope, that's Sunday night's show.

Speaker 3:

Wrong night.

Speaker 2:

Let me back up. This is halfway through the week with Tim LaMotta. I haven't even had a shot tonight. Oh, my goodness gracious. Anyway, everybody, I'm going to play a song to see you all out and I will be back next week. You all have a great night.

Speaker 4:

Thank you. Our world, my love, our world, my love. Where is our grace, our grace? Where is the truth? Where is the truth that made us human? That made us human? Where is your heart? It's fueling the fire that will disintegrate Our world. Where are we going? Where are we going? Do you even know when are we going? Where are we going? Do you even know?

Speaker 4:

You're coming home, you're going to show, you're coming home, and you see, you're coming home. You're coming home, and you see, and you see, and you see, and you see, and you see, and you see, and you see, and you see, and you see, and you see, and you see, and you see, and you see, and you see, and you see, and you see, and you see, and you see, and you see, and you see, and you see, and you see, and you see, and you see, and you see, and you. Where are all the memories? Where is the hope of your eyes? Where are all the dreams? Let me love you now. You're always the same. You're feeling cold, and I see it. I know you're feeling good and you're in your head, in your hands. You fade away, your heart is blind and all is in the great house. Bye.

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